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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post
    If a sample size of three had any value at all, we could conclude that RG3 should cut out the scrambles and run the read-option. But, from watching a much larger sample of NFL games over the years, we know that doesn't make sense.
    You can conclude whatever you like. But, Griffin's injuries this season were not caused because of read-option. They were caused from scrambles.
    And I am not suggesting he stop scrambling nor the team stop the read-option. I am saying that Griffin needs protect himself better when he runs.

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    Meh, use the 2nd rounder on a RT and get a better C.

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    Duh! He becomes a pocket passer - behind a quality OL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrelgreenie View Post
    You can conclude whatever you like. But, Griffin's injuries this season were not caused because of read-option. They were caused from scrambles.
    And I am not suggesting he stop scrambling nor the team stop the read-option. I am saying that Griffin needs protect himself better when he runs.
    Yes, he could learn to protect himself better AND the Shanahan's could learn to protect him better by not exposing him to the read-option. It isn't like we have to choose. Both options would be wise.

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    Your statement is true but irrelevant because going forward the idea is to intelligently reduce his exposure to injury. Dumping the read-option is the smart way to do that.
    So you suggest we run more of the plays that got him hurt.

    The intelligent way of protecting him is for him to slide or get out of bounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by planter View Post
    Duh! He becomes a pocket passer - behind a quality OL.
    In 2008, Mike Shanahan's team allowed only an NFL leading 11 sacks for the season with an O-line that wasn't any better than this one. He did it by moving Jay Cutler around so that the defense could not zero in on the pocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Btubes18 View Post
    Honestly, I would work on building the muscles around his knee for better stablization. He needs to be stronger in his legs to withstand the NFL.
    I'm no doctor, but I would say in addition to this he would need to work on his whole body alignment. In another thread it was highlighted that the way he bends his knees puts a lot of strain on them. (Sorry, there have been so many - might have been the How Is RG3 thread).

    I'd have thought that with the amount of rehab he will need to do, he could at least attempt correcting this.
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    So you suggest we run more of the plays that got him hurt.
    I suggest we use some common sense based on all our football experience, not just on the evidence of three plays.

    The intelligent way of protecting him is for him to slide or get out of bounds
    That's one way, sure. But, there's no rule that says we are limited to only one way.

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    Defaintaly need to rework the OL. To many times he took big hits due to a break down at the line. I know the guys up front played better this year than in the past, however how much of that was due to how well Robert could avoid the rush. I haven't looked at the stats, but I do know that there were alot of times that even after avoiding the sack Robert was taking big hits in the backfield. So we have got to up that pass blocking.

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    The kid needs to learn to slide and when to let go of a play.

    None of Griffins injuries this year happened due to our scheme. Russell Wilson runs the same scheme Griffin does, and he's not nearly as good at it. He took more than twice as many sacks as Griffin on Sunday, but he knows how to protect himself better. He knows when to slide and when to throw the ball away. And at the end of the day a phenomenal player on one leg isn't going to beat a good player at full strength. Griffin needs to understand this and stop trying to win the game by himself. He's got a ton of heart but he's too reckless. Hopefully this lesson has now been learned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    ...None of Griffins injuries this year happened due to our scheme...
    Do you think that fact justifies keeping the read-option in our scheme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrelgreenie View Post
    You can conclude whatever you like. But, Griffin's injuries this season were not caused because of read-option. They were caused from scrambles.
    And I am not suggesting he stop scrambling nor the team stop the read-option. I am saying that Griffin needs protect himself better when he runs.
    Agree. Love RG III but he has to learn not to play reckless. Russell Wilson runs the option some and he doesn't give the vibe that he's an injury waiting to happen because he knows when to get down. Ditto Kaepernick. To me its not even hindsight, you watch RG III play and IMO he plays with more abandon than any QB in the league. He can run but needs to stop playing with reckless abandon. The play where he got hurt against Baltimore, any other QB would run out of bounds, RG III ran straight into the middle of the field straight into contact -- that's unusual -- and he needs to stop doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post
    Do you think that fact justifies keeping the read-option in our scheme?
    I think scoring a lot of points justifies the read-option in our scheme, but that's probably for another thread.

    All I'm saying here is that the scheme isn't what's getting him hurt. He needs to protect himself better. If there's a better scheme out there that can maximize his talents I'm fine with that too, but no scheme will protect a kid that can't learn to slide or go out of bounds. Hopefully Griffin figures it out, because he's insanely talented.
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