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    I Was a Paid Internet Shill

    CLN Editor’s Note: The type of propaganda strategy described in the article below occurs across a wide range of topics and is employed by various corporate, political, and governmental groups to promote a variety of agendas.

    It is called astroturfing, and it is far more common than most would imagine.

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    By Ex-Shill, Above Top Secret

    I am writing here to come out of the closet as a paid shill. For a little over six months, I was paid to spread disinformation and argue political points on the Internet. This site, ATS, was NOT one that I was assigned to post on, although other people in the same organization were paid to be here, and I assume they still walk among you. But more on this later.

    I quit this job in the latter part of 2011, because I became disgusted with it, and with myself. I realized I couldn’t look myself in the mirror anymore. If this confession triggers some kind of retribution against me, so be it. Part of being a real man in this world is having real values that you stand up for, no matter what the consequences.

    My story begins in early 2011. I had been out of work for almost a year after losing my last job in tech support. Increasingly desperate and despondent, I jumped at the chance when a former co-worker called me up and said she had a possible lead for me. “It is an unusual job, and one that requires secrecy. But the pay is good. And I know you are a good writer, so its something you are suited for.” (Writing has always been a hobby for me).

    She gave me only a phone-number and an address, in one of the seedier parts of San Francisco, where I live. intrigued, I asked her for the company’s URL and some more info. She laughed. “They don’t have a website. Or even a name. You’ll see. Just tell them I referred you.” Yes, it sounded suspicious, but long-term joblessness breeds desperation, and desperation has a funny way of overlooking the suspicious when it comes to putting food on the table.

    The next day, I arrived at the address – the third floor in a crumbling building. The appearance of the place did not inspire confidence. After walking down a long, filthy linoleum-covered corridor lit by dimly-flickering halogen, I came to the entrance of the office itself: a crudely battered metal door with a sign that said “United Amalgamated Industries, Inc.”

    I later learned that this “company” changed its name almost monthly, always using bland names like that which gave no strong impression of what the company actually does. Not too hopeful, I went inside. The interior was equally shabby. There were a few long tables with folding chairs, at which about a dozen people were tapping away on old, beat-up computers. There were no decorations or ornaments of any type: not even the standard-issue office fica trees or plastic ferns. What a dump. Well, beggars can’t be choosers.

    The manager, a balding man in his late forties, rose from the only stand-alone desk in the room and came forward with an easy smile. “You must be Chris. Yvette [my ex-co-worker] told me you’d be coming.” [Not our real names]. “Welcome. Let me tell you a little about what we do.” No interview, nothing. I later learned they took people based solely on referral, and that the people making the referrals, like my ex-colleague Yvette, were trained to pick out candidates based on several factors including ability to keep one’s mouth shut, basic writing skills, and desperation for work.

    We sat down at his desk and he began by asking me a few questions about myself and my background, including my political views (which were basically non-existent). Then he began to explain the job. “We work on influencing people’s opinions here,” is how he described it. The company’s clients paid them to post on Internet message boards and popular chartrooms, as well as in gaming forums and social networks like Facebook and MySpace. Who were these clients? “Oh, various people,” he said vaguely. “Sometimes private companies, sometimes political groups.”

    Satisfied that my political views were not strong, he said I would be assigned to political work. “The best people for this type of job are people like you, without strong views,” he said with a laugh. “It might seem counterintuitive, but actually we’ve found that to be the case.” Well, OK. Fine. As long as it comes with a steady paycheck, I’d believe whatever they wanted me to believe, as the guy in Ghostbusters said.

    After discussing pay (which was much better than I’d hoped) and a few other details, he then went over the need for absolute privacy and secrecy. “You can’t tell anyone what we do here. Not your wife, not your dog.” (I have neither, as it happens.) “We’ll give you a cover story and even a phone number and a fake website you can use. You will have to tell people you are a consultant. Since your background is in tech support, that will be your cover job. Is this going to be a problem for you?” I assured him it would not. “Well, OK. Shall we get started?”

    “Right now?” I asked, a bit taken aback.

    “No time like the present!” he said with a hearty laugh.

    The rest of the day was taken up with training. Another staff member, a no-nonsense woman in her thirties, was to be my trainer, and training would only last two days. “You seem like a bright guy, you’ll get the hang of it pretty fast, I think,” she said. And indeed, the job was easier than I’d imagined. My task was simple: I would be assigned to four different websites, with the goal of entering certain discussions and promoting a certain view. I learned later that some of the personnel were assigned to internet message boards (like me), while others worked on Facebook or chatrooms. It seems these three types of media each have different strategy for shilling, and each shill concentrates on one of the three in particular.

    My task? “To support Israel and counter anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic posters.” Fine with me. I had no opinions one way or another about Israel, and who likes anti-Semites and Nazis? Not me, anyway. But I didn’t know too much about the topic. “That’s OK,” she said. “You’ll pick it up as you go along. For the most part, at first, you will be doing what we call “meme-patrol.” This is pretty easy. Later if you show promise, we’ll train you for more complex arguments, where more in-depth knowledge is necessary.”

    She handed me two binders with sheets enclosed in limp plastic. The first was labeled simply “Israel” in magic-marker on the cover, and it had two sections .The first section contained basic background info on the topic. I would have to read and memorize some of this, as time went on. It had internet links for further reading, essays and talking points, and excerpts from some history books. The second, and larger, section was called “Strat” (short for “strategy”) with long lists of “dialogue pairs.” These were specific responses to specific postings.

    If a poster wrote something close to “X,” we were supposed to respond with something close to “Y.” “You have to mix it up a bit, though,” said my trainer. “Otherwise it gets too obvious. Learn to use a thesaurus.” This section also contained a number of hints for de-railing conversations that went too far away from what we were attempting. These strategies included various forms of personal attacks, complaining to the forum moderators, smearing the characters of our opponents, using images and icons effectively, and even dragging the tone of the conversation down with sexual innuendo, links to pornography, or other such things. “Sometimes we have to fight dirty,” or trainer told us. “Our opponents don’t hesitate to, so we can’t either.”

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    Default Re: CLN: I Was a Paid Internet Shill

    I can't imagine we have anyone like that here.
    What would A World Without Lawyers be like?

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    Default Re: CLN: I Was a Paid Internet Shill

    Quote Originally Posted by Tulane Skins Fan View Post
    I can't imagine we have anyone like that here.
    The possibilities are endless...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulane Skins Fan View Post
    I can't imagine we have anyone like that here.
    There are times when I'm CERTAIN we have that here. But then, reasoning tells me that they would HAVE to be better at it, than the one I'm thinking of.
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    Default Re: CLN: I Was a Paid Internet Shill

    There are a lot of paid-for "customer product reviews" on high-traffic big name sites.
    "Captain, it's a viewpoint--not one of ours! We're under attack!"

    "I see it, ensign! Engage amygdala! Transfer all power from frontal lobes!

    Suspend critical thinking field! Go to course heading of reflexive response 101 at full bias!
    Now!'Enter' at will!"

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    Default Re: CLN: I Was a Paid Internet Shill

    They copied a thread from Above Top Secret?

    Somebody has a very sick, twisted sense of humor
    The soldiers gave three cheers as they urged their tired horses north across the uneven hills. Some of the mounts, exhausted after a week of almost continual marching, began to lag behind; others, spurred on by their enthusiastic riders, began to edge past the regiment's commander. "Boys, hold your horses," Custer cautioned; "there are plenty of them down there for us all."

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    This stuff has been around forever. Microsoft (indirectly) used people like this through a number of PR firms. The names of dead people and dogs were sometimes attached to letters of support for Microsoft during the anti-trust trial. And when I researched the two main, supposedly independent PACs that supported Microsoft, I found that they both used the same address *and* suite number. Be it on line influencing public opinion, or on capitol hill influencing votes, if you have the money, there is not shortage of sleazy companies and people willing to help for a buck.


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    Default Re: CLN: I Was a Paid Internet Shill

    Quote Originally Posted by Tulane Skins Fan View Post
    I can't imagine we have anyone like that here.
    Don't look at me.

    I shill for free.

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    Funny. Once you manage to sell the concept that "in business, 'morality' is defined as 'whatever is good for the business'", everything else becomes easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    They copied a thread from Above Top Secret?

    Somebody has a very sick, twisted sense of humor
    I think it was declassified to Below Top Secret.
    "Captain, it's a viewpoint--not one of ours! We're under attack!"

    "I see it, ensign! Engage amygdala! Transfer all power from frontal lobes!

    Suspend critical thinking field! Go to course heading of reflexive response 101 at full bias!
    Now!'Enter' at will!"

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    When my paychecks started bouncing, I was done with it!
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    Default Re: CLN: I Was a Paid Internet Shill

    I can get paid for this???

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    Default Re: CLN: I Was a Paid Internet Shill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo View Post
    There are a lot of paid-for "customer product reviews" on high-traffic big name sites.


    YES, there are. Great site. Been here a long time. Check please.

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    I only lasted a couple days... they said they were'nt sure if i was shilling for them or not.

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