Receivers dominated in Seattle game...

[Renegade7]

Re-watched the Seattle playoff game and realized what my dad was talking about concerning upgrading the receiving core. Not only was our offense practically handicapped with Garcon being out during the regular season, our receivers were getting manhandled the entire playoff game. Even Garcon was getting bullied out there, guys weren't getting open, and there were also several dropped balls as well.

As much as been talked about Griffin not being 100% in this game, I don't feel enough credit has been given to Seattle and their 4th ranked defense and their physically corners. And as young as that team is, we're going to see them again in the playoffs. Even when Cousins came in, its was the same thing with receivers dropping balls and not getting open. Even at 100%, I feel this would've been a game Griffin wouldn't of gone over 200 yards passing, and would've needed to combine with Morris for another one of our 200, damn near 300 yard rushing games in order to win (which we were well on our way to doing in the first quarter until the adjustments and poor receiver play started to take its tll).

So as much as some people don't want to resign Davis, I feelit has to be an absolute priority to help Griffin from a receiving, playmaking standpoint. Having a big, fast receiver doing his thing over the middle coulda been enough for Griffin to pull that game out for us (because it was close all the way until he got hurt and turned the ball over in the redzone). The question I'm bringing up though is that with Griffin's TD passes going to players like Paulsen and Royster, is resigning Fred Davis enough? Do we need to do more then that in terms of upgrading the skill positions on offense to compete against teams we're going to see in the later rounds of the playoffs???

[SaintGibbs]

Their secondary got away with a lot of ****. So much for secondaries being handicapped by contact rules...

[skinfan2k]

Our receiving corp is based on speed/playaction. We still dont have a true possession receiver. To evolve this offense we need to find a dominant TE or #1 WR

[HighOnHendrix]

Their secondary got away with a lot of ****. So much for secondaries being handicapped by contact rules...

Those rules only work in favor of the offense when they are properly applied by the officials.

It also helps when lab procedures are followed by the testing techs.

[braindx]

Well, we are getting Hankerson and Robinson back for the 3rd year -- that's generally the expected time for a receiver to "get it" in a system and at the NFL level.

I was hoping that Robinson could develop into an Eddie Royal type of guy, and then Hank could be a solid possession receiver type but they still have some work to do.

We'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if we went after another receiver in FA or drafted another one. But I think what we have in our system developing another year could be good.

We definitely need a solid TE catching threat though because our run game opens up the middle so much. If we could have a great TE down the middle like Davis if he wasn't injured our offense would be perennial top 5. In fact, we were top 4 for both yards and points this year so it's not like we were horrible.

Morris + RG3 is a good combo.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Morris + RG3 is a good combo.

[MustangSteve]

Seattle had no answer for our offense before Griffin got injured, and that was way before that bad snap, that was just the final tare. They were getting their asses handed to them! Plus their secondary was pushing our receivers down and holding onto others because they couldn't keep up with them. The bomb they intercepted was blatant interference and wasn't called. Add a healthy Fred Davis and RG3, and Seattle's ass was polished!

We had 2 receivers break free at 2 different times in that game and were wide open down field, but RG3 couldn't buy time to see them because he could barely walk, much less than run. A half injured Redskins team gave Seattle a hell of a fight, imagine if the Redskins were healthy and had all their players they started the season with. Seattle would have gotten throttled!!!

Shanahan will add more talent this offseason of course, I say bring in fast receivers to challenge Hankerson and Morgan, as well as another good TE since I doubt Cooley returns. This team has room to add better and faster weapons on both sides of the ball.

[Renegade7]

Well, we are getting Hankerson and Robinson back for the 3rd year -- that's generally the expected time for a receiver to "get it" in a system and at the NFL level.

I was hoping that Robinson could develop into an Eddie Royal type of guy, and then Hank could be a solid possession receiver type but they still have some work to do.

We'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if we went after another receiver in FA or drafted another one. But I think what we have in our system developing another year could be good.

We definitely need a solid TE catching threat though because our run game opens up the middle so much. If we could have a great TE down the middle like Davis if he wasn't injured our offense would be perennial top 5. In fact, we were top 4 for both yards and points this year so it's not like we were horrible.

Morris + RG3 is a good combo.

I feel that we could getting away with this plan, but its really predicated on Hankerson reaching his potential. I'm not ready to give up on him any more then I want to depend on him to be that dominant receiver opposite Garcon, which is what this thread is really about. I also want us to either take a hard look at Helu Jr, or give up and find a complementary back to Morris who has the speed to break away on screen passes or wide pitches (basically someone who can catch and make a play out the backfield).

Moss is getting older, and I don't believe Morgan was brought in to be that guy opposite Garcon. I can see Robinson eventually taking the Santana role, but that isn't going to save us if that's our plan going up against physically defenses like Seattle again. I'd encourage us to get a legit complement to Garcon and Morris as well as resigning Davis. Even as productive as our offense has shown capable of, a lot of that is from a dominant running game that when slowed exposes our passing game. Saw it happen a couple times in loses against solid teams and defenses like Pittsburg and Atlanta.

[hitmandm]

Our recievers didnt get bullied on the first 2 drives.

RG3 got hurt or we would have dropped 40+ on them

[illone]

Davis owned the same secondary last year. With rex throwing him the ball.

I dont know if that means we have to re-sign freddy, but i do know that the skins need a big fast receiving target for rg3.

If davis can fill that role moving forward im not sure the team will need to bring in anyone else, but i also think its time for hankerson to go in which case he can be replaced with Bowe, or a draft pick.

[Renegade7]

Our recievers didnt get bullied on the first 2 drives.

RG3 got hurt or we would have dropped 40+ on them

Ya they were, most of those first two drives were us running the ball down their throat. Outside of Garcon's 30 yard catch, every other catch was 11 yards or less.

[SaintGibbs]

Our recievers didnt get bullied on the first 2 drives.

RG3 got hurt or we would have dropped 40+ on them

That's what I explained to my Seahawk buddy that claimed that after the first quarter, when Seattle's D established themselves, the Redskins simply had no answer.

[Rufus T Firefly]

I heard Greg Cosell on ESPN radio a couple of days ago. He's one of the best at breaking down film, imo. He was talking about our game and the decision to leave Griffin in, in the context of having spent time breaking the film down.

He was talking about how leaving RG3 in the game was something he really questioned as the game was happening, but how much worse it looked after watching the tape. His statement was that there were "recievers wide open all over the field", but Griffin was unable to do anything about it.

[Renegade7]

I heard Greg Cosell on ESPN radio a couple of days ago. He's one of the best at breaking down film, imo. He was talking about our game and the decision to leave Griffin in, in the context of having spent time breaking the film down.

He was talking about how leaving RG3 in the game was something he really questioned as the game was happening, but how much worse it looked after watching the tape. His statement was that there were "recievers wide open all over the field", but Griffin was unable to do anything about it.

I don't believe that. It wasn't like Griffin couldn't read coverage, what I saw was him not being able to make the tight passes between airtight coverage. A big reason why is because our guys weren't getting open enough. Our guys were getting hit and well covered because oddly enough they really don't blitz that much. Our offense is good at getting people open, but wasn't enough to match up against the way they play Defense. Griffin would've had to run the ball more to get first downs and sustain drives then he was able to, and that's why we lost.

[MustangSteve]

Davis owned the same secondary last year. With rex throwing him the ball.

I dont know if that means we have to re-sign freddy, but i do know that the skins need a big fast receiving target for rg3.

If davis can fill that role moving forward im not sure the team will need to bring in anyone else, but i also think its time for hankerson to go in which case he can be replaced with Bowe, or a draft pick.

I agree, we can definitely upgrade Hankerson's position.