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    atlanta will expose the fruit of the LOOM squad for the frauds they are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomE View Post
    I heard at one time that Garcon needed to have his shoulder popped back into place.
    Not sure exactly when it happened but I do recall him being yanked by the arm by a CB, no call of course.
    I'm surprised he didn't break his neck on the play where the guy threw him down by his facemask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus T Firefly View Post
    I heard Greg Cosell on ESPN radio a couple of days ago. He's one of the best at breaking down film, imo. He was talking about our game and the decision to leave Griffin in, in the context of having spent time breaking the film down.

    He was talking about how leaving RG3 in the game was something he really questioned as the game was happening, but how much worse it looked after watching the tape. His statement was that there were "recievers wide open all over the field", but Griffin was unable to do anything about it.
    How many throws did we see that were way off target like 2-4 ft too high. RGIII couldn't step into any of his throws. Much less plant or move inside the pocket. Garçon came out and was handling his coverage. RGIII couldn As good as Paulsen was he simply wasn't Fred in the passing game. Davis went down before the team started clicking on offense and w/out Garçon. Garçon opens up the passing game for everyone. I believe Hank needs to make monumental improvements this offseason. I seen mire than enough medicore play from him. He's so passive when he clearly has the size and respectable speed to make plays in the passing game. Santana might be 34 but until you can upgrade skill wise he stays on this squad.
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    I love RG lll. He's the most exciting player in the history of this franchise. That being said, I think Cousins is gonna be good if Robert isn't ready to start the season. I'm optimistic across the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoCalMike View Post
    This is why I was so annoyed with Seattle's cornerbacks gloating after the game was over, because it was clear they weren't able to stop anything at all, until an injury to the 'Skins best player bailed them out on national TV,
    Man, I hate it when I see defensive players, regardless of team, posturing after a ball in the dirt like they had anything to do with defensing said pass. Sort of like when posters don't know the difference between your/you're. And before anyone gets sad about it, let me point out that I couldn't care less about your hurt feelings.

    Gotcha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade7 View Post
    I don't believe that. It wasn't like Griffin couldn't read coverage, what I saw was him not being able to make the tight passes between airtight coverage. A big reason why is because our guys weren't getting open enough. Our guys were getting hit and well covered because oddly enough they really don't blitz that much. Our offense is good at getting people open, but wasn't enough to match up against the way they play Defense. Griffin would've had to run the ball more to get first downs and sustain drives then he was able to, and that's why we lost.
    Spoken like someone who knows football!
    I saw the same thing.. We need a possession receiver.. one who will catch a 3rd down pass across the middle when the game is on the line and the QB can hardly stand!

    Also I'm not sure why we didn't put Aldrick in the game to take the top off the defense. Garcon and Moss could've run underneath all day!!
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    Davis will be a difference maker, but after watching Flacco this weekend, I think we need a receiver that can get downfield and take advantage of Griffin's awesome arm. Robinson might be able to step up, but he just isn't physical enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #BgMase76# View Post
    How many throws did we see that were way off target like 2-4 ft too high. RGIII couldn't step into any of his throws. Much less plant or move inside the pocket. Garçon came out and was handling his coverage. RGIII couldn As good as Paulsen was he simply wasn't Fred in the passing game. Davis went down before the team started clicking on offense and w/out Garçon. Garçon opens up the passing game for everyone. I believe Hank needs to make monumental improvements this offseason. I seen mire than enough medicore play from him. He's so passive when he clearly has the size and respectable speed to make plays in the passing game. Santana might be 34 but until you can upgrade skill wise he stays on this squad.
    This. When seattle saw Griffin couldn't run they completely changed how they pass rushed. Because of this RG3 didn't have the time, nor could he comfortably step into his throws, so they were off. We saw receivers get open all through the first, but suddenly after the RG3 injury they are suffocated in coverage? C'mon, that's just cause-and-effect. Our receivers are fine. As much as I'd like to see a Mike Wallace, I'm weary about him and I think our offense is more than fine without any change at wr. What we could really use is an RT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighOnHendrix View Post
    Man, I hate it when I see defensive players, regardless of team, posturing after a ball in the dirt like they had anything to do with defensing said pass. Sort of like when posters don't know the difference between your/you're. And before anyone gets sad about it, let me point out that I couldn't care less about your hurt feelings.
    Your right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d0ublestr0ker0ll View Post
    Ya know, i'm not looking tio get in front of a firing squad, but there were quite a few instances where RGIII got some of Grossman's bad habits; staring down 1 particular receiver. I can't pinpoint the exact times, but its something I've noticed the last few games, and not sure if its due to his knee and wanting to get rid of the ball quicker or not, but he did do it.

    Receiver-wise, if they don't get a FA somewhere, then its put up or shut up time for Hankerson, Daivs, and Morgan. Davis started out good, then all but disappeared, and now the injury bug is chasing him down; the other 2 guys, well, IMO Morgan was/is another Haynesworth, signing the big money deal then not living up to the hype, and Hankerson just doesn't have good hands, and turns to run before he actually catches the ball; I forgot what game it was, but he caught a bomb but almiost dropped it whern it was right in his hands, and it wasn't the first one either.

    So, a fire needs to be lit under their butts this offseason, trainuing camp, and early part of the season; no improvement= bye bye...

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    Morgan wasn't that bad. I think, if he applies himself, he has the tools to be an integral part of the offense. He's surprisingly physical and aggressive when we wants to be.

    Hankerson's hands are hopelessly awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    Davis will be a difference maker, but after watching Flacco this weekend, I think we need a receiver that can get downfield and take advantage of Griffin's awesome arm. Robinson might be able to step up, but he just isn't physical enough.
    Like Bowe or Wallace?

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    If we somehow get our $18 million back, I would be displeased if we don't go after either. We're a playoff team. Time to shine up the pistol.

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    Morgan won't get open regularly on his own, but with help from the scheme, he's a nice guy to have considering how physical he is, I agree.

    Hankerson... The guy hasn't shown me he'll get open regularly on his own, but the scheme can take care of that... But his hands man.... He's gotta work on them.

    We've got good receivers in Garcon and Moss, who knows how long Moss will hold up though. Garcon is good, but I still don't see him as a true #1 which is OK because we have a good scheme and we have a good QB a la the Eagles during the McNabb era and the Patriots of the last 15 years... Those teams had formidable passing attacks that were only put over the top when they got TO and Randy Moss

    When our defense is shored up and we are confident in all 5 starters of our offensive line... I think we can splurge on a #1 receiver and be unstoppable

    Our defense is not as bad as many think... We have a lot of good depth... Just need starting safeties and our defense will be good. Add an unstoppable DE or NT and our defense wlil be elite. Only problem is we might need someone behind Fletcher in case age finally catches up to him. Importance of Cornerback is overrated and what we have are decent enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    Morgan wasn't that bad. I think, if he applies himself, he has the tools to be an integral part of the offense. He's surprisingly physical and aggressive when we wants to be.

    Hankerson's hands are hopelessly awful.
    I agree about Morgan. I also feel like some forget he's coming off a broken leg. And he's a heck of a downfield blocker.

    Hankerson has focus issues for sure, though I was surprised to learn that FO has him ranked 24th in DVOA and 41st in DYAR - pretty good for a number 2/4 receiver.

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