NBC: Fat-shaming may curb obesity, bioethicist says

[Corcaigh]

I just ask, not because I have any solid evidence at my fingertips at the moment, because I think a large portion of preventable diseases reside in this insurance demographic.

It affects both public and private costs.

75% of current healthcare costs relate to treatment of chronic conditions associated with excess weight.

Workplace health programs focused on reducing cholesterol have shown payoffs greater than 300%.

But there is a stigma for some in the healthcare profession in directly confronting patients about weight issues. If you believe the patient won't use diet and exercise to address the issue, in the interest of their health the doctor will prescribe a lifetime of pharmaceuticals to mitigate the problem.

I'm sure we've all know co-workers who'll take their cholesterol and other medication before they head to the McDonalds drive through.

[Elessar78]

Or the peoe that throw a bottle of laxative into a cart full of junk food without a vegetable in sight.

[twa]

and you end up growing antibiotic resistant TB?

which became resistant how?... from the over prescription of antibiotics and idiot patients


ya can't cure stupid,but we can certainly mandate paying for it


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the anti obesity game is making a killing

[Tulane Skins Fan]

It affects both public and private costs.

75% of current healthcare costs relate to treatment of chronic conditions associated with excess weight.

Workplace health programs focused on reducing cholesterol have shown payoffs greater than 300%.

But there is a stigma for some in the healthcare profession in directly confronting patients about weight issues. If you believe the patient won't use diet and exercise to address the issue, in the interest of their health the doctor will prescribe a lifetime of pharmaceuticals to mitigate the problem.

I'm sure we've all know co-workers who'll take their cholesterol and other medication before they head to the McDonalds drive through.

75% of healthcare costs are associated with excessive weight? Not sure I buy that, even giving diabetes as part of that.

[twa]

75% of healthcare costs are associated with excessive weight? Not sure I buy that, even giving diabetes as part of that.

it's the new smoking....nearly everything is associated with it.

I'm awaiting the class action suits to crank up and the sin taxes

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/sp...esity-go-down/

Are these newspaper headlines from The Onion? Sadly, these are actual story titles from respected media outlets. The headlines reflect the near-hysteria that currently pervades discussion of America’s collective weight problem and supposed government policy solutions.

It would be easy to simply dismiss such hyperbole as trendy Big Food bashing. But behind the overblown headlines lies a calculated campaign. Its architects want you to believe that businesses are manipulating your diet and imposing harmful choices on you. Since you can’t trust yourself or the people who make your food, government must step in to protect you.

This campaign comes straight from the Activism 101 textbook and is modeled after the successful war on tobacco. The goal is to demonize, regulate and sue food companies.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/sp...#ixzz2IwnkJgSz

[zoony]

it's the new smoking....nearly everything is associated with it.

I'm awaiting the class action suits to crank up and the sin taxes
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The class action suits will actually be very interesting.

Did Nabisco know that trans fats were bad? Yes
Did Nabisco try to conceal that information? Of course
Did Nabisco continue to put their customers at risk? Yes.
Did Nabisco excessively sweeten foods to create carb dependence? Yes

I mean, what will Nabiscos defense be? They won't have one judging by the tobacco precedent. And here's the thing... Food companies know this. We're already seeing proactive steps by Coca Cola on the PR front.

And how will Americans feel about Oreos getting fined by the federal government and large surgeon generals warnings on Chips Ahoy? At what point will the entire thing just sound ridiculous? I don't know. But it will be fascinating.

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It affects both public and private costs.

75% of current healthcare costs relate to treatment of chronic conditions associated with excess weight.

Workplace health programs focused on reducing cholesterol have shown payoffs greater than 300%.

But there is a stigma for some in the healthcare profession in directly confronting patients about weight issues. If you believe the patient won't use diet and exercise to address the issue, in the interest of their health the doctor will prescribe a lifetime of pharmaceuticals to mitigate the problem.

I'm sure we've all know co-workers who'll take their cholesterol and other medication before they head to the McDonalds drive through.

It would be interesting to see the % of avid runners who clog up our healthcare system. I know several avid middle aged runners. All of them have serious knee and joint issues.

And ex football players. Wonder how much we pay for them. And cyclists. Wonder how much the fertility treatments cost insurance companies because their balls are shaped like pancakes.

Just seems like if we had a nation of jogging and cycling enthusiasts, healthcare wouldn't be any cheaper. There is always something.

But on a serious note I do agree that there needs to be more emphasis on health and less on prescription drugs by the healthcare industry. Lipitor should not be prescribed when the patient is 400 lbs... Or at least it should be part of a larger plan

[Special K]

it's the new smoking....nearly everything is associated with it.

I'm awaiting the class action suits to crank up and the sin taxes

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/sp...esity-go-down/

Are these newspaper headlines from The Onion? Sadly, these are actual story titles from respected media outlets. The headlines reflect the near-hysteria that currently pervades discussion of America’s collective weight problem and supposed government policy solutions.

It would be easy to simply dismiss such hyperbole as trendy Big Food bashing. But behind the overblown headlines lies a calculated campaign. Its architects want you to believe that businesses are manipulating your diet and imposing harmful choices on you. Since you can’t trust yourself or the people who make your food, government must step in to protect you.

This campaign comes straight from the Activism 101 textbook and is modeled after the successful war on tobacco. The goal is to demonize, regulate and sue food companies.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/sp...#ixzz2IwnkJgSz

So you believe we don't have a obesity epidemic in this country? You think it's all calculated hype?

[Enter Apotheosis]

It seems to me like ramping up the obesity has curbed fat shaming more than the other way around.

[twa]

So you believe we don't have a obesity epidemic in this country? You think it's all calculated hype?

I believe we have too many lazy,lard asses,but yes I think the obesity 'crisis' is ginned up.

We have a stupid problem as well.....they probably have a pill for that as well

[Jumbo]

We have a stupid problem as well.....they probably have a pill for that as well

If we had a pill for that I'd be PMing all day for mailing addresses and offering to treat.

[twa]

The class action suits will actually be very interesting.

dang drug dealers are marketing directly to children

Capt Crunch is like crack

[Riggo-toni]

If we had a pill for that I'd be PMing all day for mailing addresses and offering to treat.

[Corcaigh]

It would be interesting to see the % of avid runners who clog up our healthcare system. I know several avid middle aged runners. All of them have serious knee and joint issues.

And ex football players. Wonder how much we pay for them. And cyclists. Wonder how much the fertility treatments cost insurance companies because their balls are shaped like pancakes.

Just seems like if we had a nation of jogging and cycling enthusiasts, healthcare wouldn't be any cheaper. There is always something.

But on a serious note I do agree that there needs to be more emphasis on health and less on prescription drugs by the healthcare industry. Lipitor should not be prescribed when the patient is 400 lbs... Or at least it should be part of a larger plan

I presume that you're not being serious, even though your comment lacked any humor.

Someone whining about sore joints is not within two orders of magnitude of the cost of someone who has a hospital stay because of heart disease or worse.

And the active do not have more injuries. I wouldn't argue that playing football long term is good for your health, but multiplr research studies show that exercise such as running doesn't lead to joint damage - it leads to the opposite, improved joint flexibility and strength compared those who are inactive.

[Symbol]

Symbol, I don't mean this in an offensive way at all, so please don't take it as such.

Are you able to walk? Could you take walks totaling 1-2 hours per day? I think as we get older and more rickety, we have to find more creative ways to stay active. Not all of us can keep up the activity level we were used to. I went from playing 3 sports through high school, to jogging 4 miles per day 5-6 times per week, to now jumping rope/doing the elliptical a couple times per week. The reason is a combination of time commitments, my body slowing down as I age, and other priorities.

So, my point is, I understand that you can't jog or run. But if you can walk you can burn some calories. My mom has never jogged or done anything other than go on walks outside. She walks during her lunch hour and again in the evenings. She's in fantastic shape for someone over 60 years old. I think we just need to evolve. I know there are guys out there who do marathons in their 40s...but for every one of those there are probably 10 guys who stay in shape just fitting in some activity when they can.

I do. I walk about 1-2 miles per day, 1 mile outside around town and another on the treadmill when I go to the gym. I lift weights every other day (nothing heavy, can't handle that anymore). Though the weight lifting I haven't been able to do for a couple of weeks because I have a wrist injury. I pay $45 a month at Anytime Fitness because I don't want to blimp out to 300 lbs +, it's bad enough that I'm over 200lbs.

As for being offended, not much offends me, I was just stating that your list wasn't complete, though I do agree that the majority of people that are over weight, especially those that are morbidly obese fall into the 3 choices that you gave. Though there is a small percentage of the population that are fat that do not fall into one of those categories.

[Elessar78]

Fat Shaming. Deserves a quiet night. I'm not sure all these people understand.