W.P.: Dan Snyder says he fired Vinny Cerrato for letting him hire Jim Zorn(M.E.T.)

[2cents]

So the choice was between Jim Fassel and Jim Zorn.

...I...

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...Well I guess Zorn was worse. By how much who knows...

Fassel"s Giants team usually made the playoffs and had a Super Bowl apprearence. Hardly chopped liver...

[Skins Wingman]

hip, hip, HORRAAAY! most awkward locker room celebration ever.

[TMK9973]

So here is my question -Look, Zorn was over matched and not qualified to run a NFL team. Then again, neither was Steve Spurrier.
But man it just seems like Jim Zorn is HATED by Snyder? Any idea why?

Zorn and Spurrier were 12-20 in two years. Both brought bad players. One he still likes, one he doesn't.

[Birdlives]

That it was just the Zorn thing and not also the fact that Vinnies personnel visions were awful is a little scary.

[TheLongshot]

Zorn and Spurrier were 12-20 in two years. Both brought bad players. One he still likes, one he doesn't.

The difference was that Spurrier was his guy, and Zorn was Vinny's.

[Mr. Sinister]

So here is my question -Look, Zorn was over matched and not qualified to run a NFL team. Then again, neither was Steve Spurrier.
But man it just seems like Jim Zorn is HATED by Snyder? Any idea why?

Zorn and Spurrier were 12-20 in two years. Both brought bad players. One he still likes, one he doesn't.

It's the Swinging Gate. Tha changes everything.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

I don't think he remotely 'does it all', nor do I think he wants to, either.

/Burt Reynolds laugh

---------- Post added January-29th-2013 at 05:03 PM ----------

Zorn and Spurrier were 12-20 in two years. Both brought bad players. One he still likes, one he doesn't.

I think it was the message that the failures sent. Danny does not like to look foolish.

Spurrier was just a good old fashioned coaching failure. No one criticized the hiring process. Certainly, no one criticized the hire. Spurrier was seen as some kind of coaching savant and the NFL had been trying to pull him away from Florida for years. Just the act of hiring Spurrier was a success for Danny.

And most people thought Spurrier would win simply because he always won. The failure to win fell on Spurrier (who was revealed to be a pretty big flake), not Danny.

The Zorn hire was seen as a joke from the start. Danny went way way way out on a limb there. And when it failed, everyone pointed the finger at Danny, not Zorn. Zorn is a position coach who never was even thought of as a possible coordinator. Danny was convinced there was genius there. And looked like a total amateur in the end.

[Yeen80]

Zorn + Spurrier = 24-40 in 4 years. 4 years I wish I had back as a fan

[TheLongshot]

/Burt Reynolds laugh

Ok, let me put it this way: there is a difference between a head coach forming a FO that the owner has little say in and one where he had a lot of say. Bruce Allen was hired separate from Shanahan, and while the hire was intended to go hand-in-hand with Shanahan, Allen is still Snyder's guy. Snyder didn't have any of that with Marty.

The Zorn hire was seen as a joke from the start. Danny went way way way out on a limb there. And when it failed, everyone pointed the finger at Danny, not Zorn. Zorn is a position coach who never was even thought of as a possible coordinator. Danny was convinced there was genius there. And looked like a total amateur in the end.

The only reason why Snyder would be convinced of that would be because Vinny sold him on it. Zorn is so left-field for Snyder's typical head coaching decisions that it is hard to come to any conclusion other than it had to be Vinny's guy. Really, Snyder's first choices always seemed to be experienced head coaches, even with Spurrier. Fassel sounded a lot more like a typical Snyder hire than Zorn.

[darrelgreenie]

Danny blame shifting all over the place. Maybe if Dan and Vin didn't undermine Zorn at every step and completely botch the Front Office/Personnel situation Zorn would have had a chance.

[Bacon]

hip, hip, HORRAAAY! most awkward locker room celebration ever.

There's always reason to celebrate when you're the maroon and black.

[DeadExField]

Danny blame shifting all over the place. Maybe if Dan and Vin didn't undermine Zorn at every step and completely botch the Front Office/Personnel situation Zorn would have had a chance.

LOL right on

And who do we fire for hiring Vinny Cerato? O_O

heh only kidding

[KingGibbs]

I know I'm not the only one that feels this way, but if the 'skins were to win multiple SB's under Snyder's ownership? It still wouldn't change my opinion about him as a person.

[darrelgreenie]

LOL right on

And who do we fire for hiring Vinny Cerato? O_O

heh only kidding

Hugh?

[DCranon21]

It's the Swinging Gate. Tha changes everything.

Also with the Swinging Gate, you have to remember the Sacks 'N Stuff that went along with the Swinging Gate, because Vinny was not concerned about the Sacks 'N Stuff.

But I think the Swinging Gate was the biggest middle finger a coach has ever done I've seen in a while.