W.P.: Dan Snyder says he fired Vinny Cerrato for letting him hire Jim Zorn(M.E.T.)

[TMK9973]

It's the Swinging Gate. Tha changes everything.

HAHAHA...yeah...that could be it.

[Cooleyfan1993]

Dan still owes us Redskins fans for those 2 years of hell with Zorn. And the 2 years of embarrassment with Spurrier.

really? even after a season of RG3 and winning the NFC East? my goodness man what does it take to win back the fans these days?!?!? lol

[skinfan2k]

I think those 2 years were needed for Snyder to learn as an owner. If those two years don't happen, we probably have Vinny and stilll stuck in mediocrity

[gortiz]

Only we could have a coaching search as bizarre as the one for Zorn

You know what ... and you guys tell me if I'm not remembering this correclty, but for as ****ed up as the coaching search circus was for Zorn ... was it not scrutized as much as it should have been?

I just think for the level of ridiculousness that it reached, the media really didn't hammer the Skins and Danny appropriately.

[Mr. Sinister]

You know what ... and you guys tell me if I'm not remembering this correclty, but for as ****ed up as the coaching search circus was for Zorn ... was it not scrutized as much as it should have been?

I just think for the level of ridiculousness that it reached, the media really didn't hammer the Skins and Danny appropriately.

Probably because we just came off of a season in which we made the playoffs. If we'd had another losing season before that weird ass coaching search, I'm sure it would've been a lot worse.

[gortiz]

really? even after a season of RG3 and winning the NFC East? my goodness man what does it take to win back the fans these days?!?!? lol

• Firing Norv with a winning record
• Not keeping Herzog
• Not resigning Brad
• The Coles/flat screen drama
• Hirng the OBC
• The training camp entrance fee mess
• Hiring Zorn
• The Haynesworth contract
• Hanging on to Sam too long

What did I miss???

dude still owes us ... despite 2012.

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Probably because we just came off of a season in which we made the playoffs. If we'd had another losing season before that weird ass coaching search, I'm sure it would've been a lot worse.

great point ...wow, didn't think about that. You are right.

---------- Post added January-29th-2013 at 05:42 PM ----------

Probably because we just came off of a season in which we made the playoffs. If we'd had another losing season before that weird ass coaching search, I'm sure it would've been a lot worse.

great point ...wow, didn't think about that. You are right.

[Burgold]

• Firing Norv with a winning record
  Firing Norv was long overdue. In the moment and based on his head coaching successes elsewhere that wasn't a mistake. Now, if you'd said firing Casserly for Vinny I might believe you.
  
• Not keeping Herzog
  Okay.
  
• Not resigning Brad
  Yeah, choosing Jeff George over Brad Johnson was a head scratcher. Potential over production. Bad move.
  
• The Coles/flat screen drama
  Correct move and time has proven it out. Coles faded into obscurity and Moss has been a very productive player.
  
• Hirng the OBC
  I might be in the vast minority, but I understood this roll of the dice. It's the same one the Eagles are taking this year. Sometimes, you swing for the fences and hit into a double play. I don't mind playing for the win.
  
• The training camp entrance fee mess
  Yeah, that was dumb. He knew it almost as soon as he did it too.
  
  
• Hiring Zorn
  Not sure what was worse. Hiring Zorn as an offensive coordinator before he hired a head coach (thus emasculating any head coach) or hiring him as head coach. Yup, dumb move. Guy had a pretty good plan A, but absolutely no plan B once teams adjusted to what he was trying those first eight games.
  
• The Haynesworth contract
  Stupid move. That big a contract for a jerk who never played a full season. Red flags everywhere.
  
• Hanging on to Sam too long
  Sam's an icon. Hard to fault this.
  

What did I miss???

dude still owes us ... despite 2012.[COLOR="Gold"]

[RFKFedEx]

Yep, blame Vinny but not his employer. Sounds about right for Snyder.

[spjunkies]

Here's to ya, Jimbo

[skinsmarydu]

OK, I'm fairly well-schooled in football rules and "whatnot-to-do", even I knew when Gibby called 2 time-outs that it was against the rules--and after going through the entire page of Google searches on the Swinging Gate, I can't figure out what I'm really seeing or reading (maybe I need Madden with his telestrator).
So I get that the snapper can't just turn his shoulders and "pass" the ball to the QB. Is there something else that I'm missing?
Just a question...I'm not confused about the rule, just about the subject as it relates to the thread comments so far.

An opinion...I was absolutely GIDDY when we hired Steve Spurrier, but then I read that players were taking phone calls during team meetings, etc. So I was convinced from that point on that he just didn't command the respect from NFL players that he did from the college kids. A shame, I think...he's a great coach, and usually doesn't allow BS.

[Yeen80]

• Firing Norv with a winning record
• Not keeping Herzog
• Not resigning Brad
• The Coles/flat screen drama
• Hirng the OBC
• The training camp entrance fee mess
• Hiring Zorn
• The Haynesworth contract
• Hanging on to Sam too long

What did I miss???

dude still owes us ... despite 2012.

---------- Post added January-29th-2013 at 05:36 PM ----------



great point ...wow, didn't think about that. You are right.

---------- Post added January-29th-2013 at 05:42 PM ----------



great point ...wow, didn't think about that. You are right.

Pepper Rodgers

[SkinsFanMania]

If that is the case, I'm glad he hired Jim Zorn.

Every redskins fans last words.

[Yeen80]

Of course: Defending himself for hiring Spurrier but destroying Vinny for hiring Zorn.

[SkinsFanMania]

This read makes Dan Snyder look like an idiot, if we didn't already know. His word choice is so poor, and some of his statements are pure irony.

He says, Marty Shot. Would still be head coach if he wasn't trying to do it all. Well isn't Mike 'doing it all' right now? Lol... I haven't even finished reading this but Dan really needs to either avoid the media or start being more honest.

I think he means schotty didn't have the personnel guy we have in Bruce Allen.

[rskin72]

Interesting read....I did not know that Zorn and Cerrato were buds....of course, I was not on any Redskin website back then. Personally, I thought that Spurrier was a far more brutal choice than Zorn as a HC. Somewhere around the time Spurrier was hired, I recall reading a comment from him stating that he did not believe that NFL HC's needed to burn the midnight oil to be successful. I knew at that point that we were doomed. Then, he tried to make the Redskins the NFL version of the Florida Gators. But....not as much fun, and the only one under the gun was the QB.

With Zorn, while I was not thrilled with that hire.....I was less thrilled with the other choices of Fassel or Bellick that were floating in the media. I thought that maybe Zorn would shine as a HC, that maybe we found a diamond in the rough. Hahaha....joke was on me, and the Redskins organization. Joke was really on me as the Zorn years were the first two seasons I owned ST's. I should get some type of rebate for that.....