NFL.com: Chris Culliver (49ers CB) wouldn't accept openly gay player

[MassSkinsFan]

how is it it immature?

you dont think heterosexual men and women have a right to be uncomfortable being naked around someone who is attracted to the opposite sex.

and i never once said they were animals, i firmly believe in gay rights and have no opposition to them in any way.

i think you decided to automaticly assume i was saying they would inherently not be able to control themselves but thats not the case, i was simply saying that its possible they could find themselves attracted to one of there strait teammates and its not fair to put them in that situation without there consent

After reading the article I posted above I saw a link to an interview with Wade Davis, who came out after his NFL career ended. He's asked about this, and says that being on a football team is like being in a family, so for him, the notion of ogling someone on your own team doesn't even cross anyone's mind because you're family. I thought that was interesting. Have a look: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...gay-lives.html

[authentic]

i think anybody should have the right to be openly gay in the nfl but i also feel that teammates have the right to feel uncomfortable around them in the locker room.
how would this be any different than an openly heterosexual man in a women's locker room.

Right, i think if we boast in being a "tolerant" and "progressive" society. We must seek to understand and tolerate everyone's opinion on a matter. And i will be one to say that the "uncomfortability" in this circumstance isn't as sinister as some would propose. But that's my opinion.

---------- Post added January-31st-2013 at 06:41 PM ----------

If you have that opinion or even feeling, you are very immature. I'd love to watch multiple gay men shoot you down. They're not animals you know.
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Dude, is it so serious that a person can't express a contrary opinion?

[Bacon]

Man, I want to be offended by this than I actually am. The way Culliver phrased his argument is so stereotypically homophobic that I can barely stand it, but I can also sympathize with those who would be uncomfortable with a homosexual teammate sharing a locker room with them.

[LadySkinsFan]

how is it it immature?

you dont think heterosexual men and women have a right to be uncomfortable being naked around someone who is attracted to the opposite sex.

and i never once said they were animals, i firmly believe in gay rights and have no opposition to them in any way.

i think you decided to automaticly assume i was saying they would inherently not be able to control themselves but thats not the case, i was simply saying that its possible they could find themselves attracted to one of there strait teammates and its not fair to put them in that situation without there consent

This post sounds like you don't think that people can act like adults and not hit on everything that moves.

[Dirt]

I am so, so, so, so sick and tired of guys backpedaling on what they say. "a reflection of the thoughts in my head, but it's not how I feel"?????? Could you possibly put together a bigger bull**** sentence...It just makes it worse.

If you don't like the gay thing, keep it to yourself. Don't go out mentioning it like no one will write it down, THEN say it's not really how you FEEL, you were just sayin....ugh it's so dumb

---------- Post added January-31st-2013 at 08:32 PM ----------

This post sounds like you don't think that people can act like adults and not hit on everything that moves.

I dunno if it's just that, it's just giving both sides of the issue, (as if straight people are oppressed, I know..). But you can't deny it could be awkward in a NFL locker room. I happen to think it would be so petty, it wouldn't matter...but if there's any place that makes the gay discussion tricky, it's a locker room. Look how much of a mess it was when Portis mentioned the thing about women reporters in locker rooms. It was in bad taste and all, but it's kind of the elephant in the room no one wants to talk about. NO ONE wants to talk about the gay thing in the locker room, you cannot win lol.

it tis what it is..veery tricky little topic that everyone has to walk on eggshells about

[skinsmarydu]

This post sounds like you don't think that people can act like adults and not hit on everything that moves.

I concur with the lady from VA...Good grief, I remember those days. And wish I could forget most/scratch that/all of them.

[redskinss]

This post sounds like you don't think that people can act like adults and not hit on everything that moves.

no its not that at all.
its like the analogy i first mentioned, men cant be in locker rooms with woman and vice versa not because they cant control themselves but because of obvious reasons i shouldnt even need to mention.

now times are changing for civil rights for gay men and women which is a very good thing but because of that there are some unintended consequences like the fact that now sexual uncomfortability (for lack of a better way of saying it) is now more than just between men and women.

[Leonard Washington]

WTF Why is this on NFL.com? This is like a TMZ story

[authentic]

WTF Why is this on NFL.com? This is like a TMZ story

i wondered the samething, bro.

[Hiro]

Did anyone see this yet?

USA Toady: Donte Whitner Ready to Accept Gay Teammate, Disappointed in Chris Culliver

Given that he did this video, this doesn't surprise me. Four stand up guys in this.



EDIT: Not such stand up guys. Sigh.

[Bacon]

Not so fast...

San Francisco 49ers' Ahmad Brooks, Isaac Sopoaga Deny Participating In 'It Gets Better' Gay Youth Video

[NLC1054]

I can't help but think that, from high school, through college, and now in the NFL, these guys have seen a whoooooooooooollllleee lotta naked men.

The awkwardness, as has been pointed out, has to come from a sense that every gay dude wants ever guys body. But these guys see each other in the shower every day. Cooley very, VERY bluntly talked about Jabar Gaffney's, um, er, uh..."sizeable member". You see things in a lockerroom.

It's just weird to think that if you spent time in a lockerroom with a guy all the time, all the sudden you'd get self-conscious because he was gay. Then it matters. Before, not so much. After it matters a lot.

At any rate, Culliver was a dumbass for saying it, and his walking back of the comments makes him seem even dumber.

I also find it ironic that this came from someone in the San Francisco 49ers lockerroom.

---------- Post added January-31st-2013 at 11:56 PM ----------

Not so fast...

San Francisco 49ers' Ahmad Brooks, Isaac Sopoaga Deny Participating In 'It Gets Better' Gay Youth Video

Um...did someone tell them, that, like, it's up? On the internet? Where people can see it?

[Laron Burgundy]

no its not that at all.
its like the analogy i first mentioned, men cant be in locker rooms with woman and vice versa not because they cant control themselves but because of obvious reasons i shouldnt even need to mention.

now times are changing for civil rights for gay men and women which is a very good thing but because of that there are some unintended consequences like the fact that now sexual uncomfortability (for lack of a better way of saying it) is now more than just between men and women.

Exactly. I could be in a lockerroom full of naked women and I'd never say something inappropriate, that isn't the issue. For all the talk about being family, we know how guys think. There are no platonic friendships between men and women, or, at the very least, they are exceedingly rare, especially during the ages of a player's career.

I don't think there's anything wrong with being uncomfortable about being naked around a gay man. It's not hate, it's the same reason most guys are uncomfortable with being naked around girls and vice versa. Culliver made dumb statements, I think had he just phrased it as that he would be uncomfortable with it then it would be more agreeable.

[NLC1054]

Culliver made dumb statements, I think had he just phrased it as that he would be uncomfortable with it then it would be more agreeable.

What about the part where he said the teammate should keep it to themselves and not come out for ten years? That goes slightly beyond "it makes me uncomfortable".

And again, these guys have spent their whole lives in lockerrooms, in showers, etc.,. It just seems weird that having your dangly bits out around other dudes is perfectly fine and just a part of football until a dude that you probably already know and don't have problems with says he's gay. Then you get self-conscious.

[Laron Burgundy]

What about the part where he said the teammate should keep it to themselves and not come out for ten years? That goes slightly beyond "it makes me uncomfortable".

And again, these guys have spent their whole lives in lockerrooms, in showers, etc.,. It just seems weird that having your dangly bits out around other dudes is perfectly fine and just a part of football until a dude that you probably already know and don't have problems with says he's gay. Then you get self-conscious.

Well that's the dumb statement he said. It's not an issue of having a problem with the guy. I don't have problems with women, but I also don't want them in the men's lockerroom. The reason being naked around other guys is ok is because you don't believe you're being sexually judged. Whether they are or not, it's the feeling that is disconcerting.