Redskins 2013 Salary Cap (Check OP for Updates)

[Bifflog]

I am a firm believer that the cap hits have been a blessing. We are doing things right for once, our front office was prepared to sign a lot of FA's this past offseason.

We need to continue to build.

I think you're dead wrong. If you don't trust the people running the team now with money to execute their plans, then give up, its over. They aren't going to be the ones to turn this around if what you say is true.

[sjinhan]

I am a firm believer that the cap hits have been a blessing. We are doing things right for once, our front office was prepared to sign a lot of FA's this past offseason.

We need to continue to build.

Although I think as authentic said we were going to be more controled with the current FO regardless but the cap hit definitely forced us to change our ways from the past. So I think its fair to say it is a "blessing". Mind as well right, its not like we are going to be able to change it. It is what it is so lets just keep it positive.

[smootonurface]

I don't like the idea of back loading contracts either.

Depending on health we are going to have to big players looking for a pay day in a couple years.

[pjfootballer]

I Disagree, the money we can spend is an asset no matter what. Our issues weren't with spending, it was who we were spending it on. If Bruce Smith and Primtime were say 26 when we signed them to those contracts they would have been great. But not when they are 30+ years old and to monster contracts

Signing 30+ year old guys isn't bad either but it can't be a huge contract (mainly with years)

I agree with this and add in the type of player that fits the scheme. While a 26 year old Deion would be nice, does he fit the type of defense we want to run? Bruce Smith was primarily a 3-4 DE, but we ran a 4-3 at the time. Why would you sign the guy at 26 to be a 4-3 DE when he plays in the 3-4? That has been just as big an issue as the money given out as you said above.

[London Kev]

Thanks for the links OP. This is one part of football that I really struggle to understand and a complete explaination is hard to find.

[gibbsfan2018]

I agree with this and add in the type of player that fits the scheme. While a 26 year old Deion would be nice, does he fit the type of defense we want to run? Bruce Smith was primarily a 3-4 DE, but we ran a 4-3 at the time. Why would you sign the guy at 26 to be a 4-3 DE when he plays in the 3-4? That has been just as big an issue as the money given out as you said above.

agreed. our left DE goes on IR so we trade a 2nd to bring in a right DE. Just makes no sense.

[Jumbo]

Thanks for the links OP. This is one part of football that I really struggle to understand and a complete explaination is hard to find.

I don't think he'll mind if I say that the OP was concerned that he might not do a "good enough job" to start a new thread focused on just this, for this year. These responses should give him some confidence and I think his care for how he contributes to the quality of the board is praiseworthy. ;

[Alcoholic Zebra]

Yeah we should be carrying over around 4M to off set whatever we are currently over right now. Once its all said and done we'll have somewhere around 8 million in cap room if we restructure

How are we saving about 8 million through restructuring? I thought I read something about us having very few restructure-able contracts?

Anyways, unless we do some wheeling and dealing, we'll need about 3.4 million for our rookies from the 2013 draft picks. Does not leave us much room to re-sign our own guys.

[Dukes and Skins]

How are we saving about 8 million through restructuring? I thought I read something about us having very few restructure-able contracts?

Anyways, unless we do some wheeling and dealing, we'll need about 3.4 million for our rookies from the 2013 draft picks. Does not leave us much room to re-sign our own guys.

Cutting DHall alone saves 7.5 Million IIRC

[bowhunter]

So if;
D-Hall restructures that will save us $____
and Moss restructures __________
and we carry over $4M in savings that will leave us $______

then we need to sign Freddie-D for $___________
and Lorenzo for $________
Darrel Young $_____
L.Paulsen $______
Polumbus $_________
Lichtensteiger$______
R.Jackson$_______
Kehl $______
C.Griffin $_________
C.Baker$__________
Rocca$__________
and a mid-level FS for $______
and an upgrade at RT for $______
and $______ to sign our draft picks.......

and all of that will leave us $__________over or under the cap, so we can ______________.
I'm sure there are lots of blanks I left out of the above scenario, but can one of you cap smart people give us at least a starting point???

---------- Post added January-31st-2013 at 04:56 PM ----------

I don't think he'll mind if I say that the OP was concerned that he might not do a "good enough job" to start a new thread focused on just this, for this year. These responses should give him some confidence and I think his care for how he contributes to the quality of the board is praiseworthy. ;

Agreed. I love threads like these. Very educational for those of us wondering what happens in the dark, smoke filled rooms of the salary cap speak easys.

[Darth Tater]

Are we 4 mil over before or after the carry over?

I read the link as indicating that we are about a net 200K under as of now.

[Rypien1191]

Jammal Brown is a $5M cap hit next year????

[Darth Tater]

I don't like the idea of back loading contracts either.

Depending on health we are going to have to big players looking for a pay day in a couple years.

Why? Do you know why salaries are back loaded? To make sure a big bonus is payable upfront and to allow to restructure room in the out years. There is no issue with back loading contracts unless your doing back loading SALARIES to allow for more front loading of guaranteed monies. It is paid but not yet accounted for monies that are the worse from a team's perspective and then all other guaranteed monies. Non-guaranteed salaries are of little concern as they only hit if the player is on the roster and are easier to re-structure if he is.

[DC9]

Well done, rick. I am digging this. Thanks for sharing/posting.

EDIT: I am also taking the salary cap tracker out of the OP of the FA thread... as if there was one yet, lol.

[Alcoholic Zebra]

Jammal Brown is a $5M cap hit next year????

Well, yes and no. He's for sure gone, it's just a matter of when. If we cut him immediately we save somewhere around 1.5 M. But if we wait to cut him until June 1, then we save over 3 million but we don't get much relief this year.

---------- Post added January-31st-2013 at 07:59 PM ----------

Cutting DHall alone saves 7.5 Million IIRC

I mean, it makes total sense to cut him. But we'd be SUPER thin at corner if we do so. We'd have Crawford and Wilson on contract, and that's all I can think of right now.