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    Pro's: the man has significant talent, like "break the game open" talent

    Cons: salary demands, injury questions (Migraines, Ankle) & now the negative locker room stuff


    From my viewpoint: 1) we cannot afford him & 2) Shanny worked hard to clean the locker room up.

    Talent or not, I bet we steer clear of this.

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    Not saying I'm for the move but I think the "headcase" label for Percy is kinda overblown.

    Any great player who doesn't get the ball is gonna get pissed. Any great player that has a contract dispute is gonna get pissed as well. That isn't being a "cancer" IMO.

    The injury thing is way more concerning
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesubmittedone View Post
    But, if the conditions I mentioned above are met, I think we're just being paranoid Redskin fans that are used to getting owned on these type of deals by being against it.
    The man has lingering injury issues, he's yelled at two head coaches and members of a coaching staff, and he lost the support of his fellow players in the process.

    If Vinny were still the GM, people would be begging to NOT trade for him.

    Some guys aren't worth the hassle.

    No one has stopped to think "Why would the Vikings want to trade the tremendously talented player who is the best wide receiver on their team"? That's not a giant red flag that's been doused is gasoline and set on fire?

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    Mike Shanny seems to know what he's doing so If they do decide to sign him all I can say is...Hail yes
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    I don't see him fitting in with our guys, not really "team-oriented" from what I hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 View Post
    Not saying I'm for the move but I think the "headcase" label for Percy is kinda overblown.

    Any great player who doesn't get the ball is gonna get pissed. Any great player that has a contract dispute is gonna get pissed as well. That isn't being a "cancer" IMO.

    The injury thing is way more concerning
    I don't think it's overblown at all. He's had personal issues with two different coaching staffs. He had 60+ catches in 8 starts (9 total games) last season so I don't think there is any validity to him not getting targeted enough.

    His migraines seemed to disappear after Childress left which makes could make one wonder how legitimate they really were and how much of it was a Randy Moss type "I practice when I want to" situation.

    Percy Harvin the player I would trade for. The person, not so much.

    I think our team has come too far and our resources are too limited to risk dumping picks and money into a guy that could be a problem child.

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    From a football standpoint, there is really no reason not to like Percy Harvin on this offense. Shanahan and co can do everything they ever wanted to do with Brandon Banks, except they can do it with an actually productive player.

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    Harvin's migraines became a thing of the past because they discovered he had sleep apnea, not because Childress left. His migraines were legitimate, but are no longer a concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laxpunk2006 View Post
    I don't think it's overblown at all. He's had personal issues with two different coaching staffs. He had 60+ catches in 8 starts (9 total games) last season so I don't think there is any validity to him not getting targeted enough.

    His migraines seemed to disappear after Childress left which makes could make one wonder how legitimate they really were and how much of it was a Randy Moss type "I practice when I want to" situation.

    Percy Harvin the player I would trade for. The person, not so much.

    I think our team has come too far and our resources are too limited to risk dumping picks and money into a guy that could be a problem child.
    He had 62 catches on 84 targets and an additional 22 attempts on the ground. All together they tried to get Harvin the ball 106 in the games he was healthy and played in. He averaged 6 catches a game. Any claims that he "wasn't getting the ball enough" are bull. Him and AP were basically that whole offense.

    Apparently the times he yelled at the coaches were over the results to MRIs and not being allowed to play, which still doesn't speak well to his ability to deal with adversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesubmittedone View Post
    Damn, a 2nd and a 4th? Welp, I wish I knew that before writing everything I just did a couple posts above, lol. Pass. We absolutely need that 2nd.
    Haha, it is a steep price. Of course I'm betting the asking price was leaked to try set the market. Even so, the cards would have to fall just right for me to consider him. But Lord, he's a heck of a player.

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    Somebody is going to pay whatever steep price the Vikings are going to ask for Harvin, but it won't be the Skins.

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    If he could be had straight up for a 2nd, and agreed to a contract extension, I'd jump all over it.

    As it is, he'll probably go for more than that and he'll probably extort whatever team he goes to for a ridiculous contract, which we're trying to stay away from (hopefully) until RG3 requires one.

    Not that he doesn't deserve the huge contract. He'd instantly make us favorites to go deep into the playoffs with this offense, assuming RG3 returns mostly healthy. His greatest asset is one of the things Shanahan values most in a WR--his YAC ability. He'd make our offense an unstoppable juggernaut.

    But its most likely a pipe dream, as he'll cost too much in draft picks and cap space, and he might not even be a fit for what we want in a FA, personality-wise.

    Somebody is going to get a hell of a player though.
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    Not saying we should get him but it's worth considering because of the benefit he can bring to our team. It looks like it might be too steep a price.

    However, if we are going BPA there is a good chance we may end up taking a WR in the 2nd anyway. There is about 10% chance whoever we draft can give us the production and versatility at WR Harvin can. Maybe a 2nd and Hankerson would do it I don't know if we want to do that either I'm just saying, it is worth exploring and I really hope MS and BA look into it.

    Would hate to see him go somewhere else for somethig we could have had. Also, we have built a great locker room full of high character guys and strong leaders. Harvin grew up with Urban Meyer Florida gators who notoriously had no rules and structures and walked into the NFL seeing Favre walk all over the Vikings. Our locker room could be just what he needs.

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    I don't think any team will give up a 2nd for Harvin. He's good but that would mean he's better than Holmes or Marshal.
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    I guess one refreshing thing we've learned here is that when you're a good, division winning, playoff team, you don't have that: A-bad team desperate to get better attitude, and B-higher draft picks that are worth more to other teams in trades.

    It's REALLY nice to know that, with the exception of a big trade up for RG3 (Kerrigan was actually a trade DOWN), this team can truly be built through any round in the draft. This is why I really covet draft picks now, I don't want your guy for some of our picks. We do things with our picks.

    Still, Harvin is intriguing, I have to say. If there's anyone I trust with a unique skillset like Percy Harvin, it's Shannahan and Son, especially with what they're doing lately. I wouldn't be shocked if it happened, I just think our offense is strong regardless, and no matter how good we are at drafting, most possibilities need to be made for DBs.
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