Best player in the league?

[REDSKINS STOMP]

The idea that Manning is overrated just because he doesn't have a title is a little silly.

That would be the same as saying Michael Jordan was overrated the first 7 years of his career.

[prophet]

Here is the real question... would Peyton be the same qb he is if he was on the Ravens, 49ers, houston

would he put up the same type of numbers?

Manning has a great supporting cast... that is what is making manning so great right now.

Manning is a top qb, but he is sure helped.

[Coltsfan in VA]

Originally posted by SkinsFTW


He can do almost anything. The one thing he can't do is the most important unfortunately.

I'd take Brady, Mc Nabb, Owens, Reed, and several others before Manning. The guy is a choke artist. The drunk kicker was right.

you lost credibility with those statements. calling mcnabb better in the playoffs than manning is liking saying marino was better in the playoffs than montana. let me see what happened the last time the colts palyed the eagles at the eagles homefield. manning scores 35 against a top defense while mcnabb scores 13 agaisnt a bad defense.

[Coltsfan in VA]

Originally posted by SkinsFTW


And his all-pro talented offense along with him put up a grand total of 3 whole points againts the Pats defense which was missing most of its starting secondary.

Try again bud. Manning is overrated. 49 regular season TD's still equals 0 rings last time I checked. Let me look again........yep 0 rings.

you are saying manning has a all pro supporting cast but all of these players were not good until they played with manning. harrison did nothing before manning came. stokley's career high for receptions before last year was 22. you say manning does not show up in the big game but you don't look at edgerrin james stats in the big game. he went 9 carries for 14 yards against the jets. he went 14 carries for 39 yards against the pats this year. he has 2 career 100 playoff rushing games while antowain smith had 5 out of 6 100 yard rushing games while he was with the patriots.

[cphil006]

offense...Manning


Defense...Sean Taylor...He changes an entire defense...

[Dead Money]

Football is a team sport. Saying manning isn't the best player because he has gotten beat by a better TEAM a few times doesn't take anything away from him.

And Brady being surround by the best coaching and defense on the consistent basais has made him the player he is.

What if you would have put Brady in Indy and Manning in New England last year.

Yeah its cold there, I get it, but once used to playing outside, Manning would domin8 there just like he does in the dome.

Brady, with no defense behind him and without Weis... Well he would look like Mike Mcmahon in my honest opinion.

[dg28daman]

Its definatly Ray Lewis. You can take him and put him on any D in the league and they'll be good.

[Waleo32]

It's Randy Moss. No one in the whole NFL can check him. He does it against Triple teams. T.O gets Double but not throught the whole game. Peyton, can't get pass the Pats. Randy when he does decide to play can't be stopped. T.O. had about 3 TD's more than Randy. And Randy missed more games if I correct. And don't count the games he played one down and left. Basically When Randy wants to play he's the best hands down.

[tkpckfan]

Originally posted by Burgold
Mark Brunnell. Really. He's awesome. Other teams should offer us multiple firsts for him. They really should.

yea thats gotta be a joke.

[GloryDaysGrill]

D.J. Wiliams, Sean Taylor, Clinton Portis.

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