Player Problems Nothing New for Gibbs

[SouthernCali Skins]

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Player Problems Nothing New for Gibbs
By Rich Tandler Site Editor
Date: Apr 17, 2005

Tandler's Redskins Blog Ver. 4.17.05
Those who claim that Joe Gibbs doesn't know how to deal with problem players just doesn't know history. From Riggins to Peters to Manley, Gibbs has managed to win titles while juggling player issues.

Poooor Joe Gibbs. He just didn't know what he was getting into when he came back as an NFL head coach. Sure, he can manipulate the X's and O's with the best of them, but he has never deal with the likes of today's modern-day player with the dollar signs in their eyes and huge egos. Nope, players in Gibbs' day never created any distractions.

Well, that's what many would have you believe these days. What short memories some writers have. Issues with players, involving money, the law, and other areas, are nothing new to Joe Gibbs. Some examples from Gibbs Era I:

March 1981: Gibbs goes to John Riggins' Kansas farm to try to talk the flaky running back out of his one-year, contract-driven retirement. Riggo greets Gibbs on the porch not long after sunrise with a just-opened beer in his hands. The coach left not having any idea whether or not he'd talked Riggins into returining--and not sure if he really wanted him back. A few months later, Riggins showed up at camp, proclaiming that he was "bored, broke and back."

September 1982: The Redskins, along with the rest of the NFL, go on strike.

August 1983: During training campPro Bowl safety Tony Peters was arrested in the wee hours of the morning in the dorm at Dickenson College on cocaine distribution charges. Peters received a two-year suspension

August 1983: Defensive end Matt Mendenhall, who started every game the year before, walks out of camp.

August 1983: Cornerback Jeris White, who started every game the year before, fails to report to camp due to a contract dispute. He never played for the team again.

August 1984: Mendenhall leaves camp again, this time for good.

August 1986: Dexter Manley ends a holdout that lasted all of training camp by signing a new contract.

September 1987: The Redskins, along with most of the rest of the NFL, go on strike. No veteran crossed the picket line, the only NFL team that didn't have at least one vet participate in the replacement game.'

August 1988: Manley suspended for all of training camp due to a positive drug test.

August 1988: Markus Koch, who was an occasional starter at defensive end, walked out of camp.

August 1989: Defensive tackle Dean Hamel, citing "burnout", walked out of training camp.

November 1989: Starting cornerback Barry Wilburn is suspended for four games due to a positive test for cocaine.

November 1989: Manley tested positive for narcotics for the third time and was banned from the NFL.

August 1990: A quartet of Redskins--Gerald Riggs, Raven Caldwell, Darryl Grand, and Markus Koch--fail to report for camp due to contract disputes.

August 1993: Mark Rypien misses the first two weeks of camp in a contract holdout; Jim Lachey, Darrel Green, and rookie Desmond Howard didn't report until the team had broken camp. StatCounter - Free Web Tracker and Counter

[Truant]

Gibbs is doomed.

[SkinsFTW]

Originally posted by Truant
Gibbs is doomed.

Or maybe Sean Taylor and Santana Moss are doomed.

[wwninja420]

Wow, I hope I'm not the only one that didn't know that D. Green didnt show up for camp in 93! Makes me a little less worried about Taylor, although the two are worlds apart in the attitude department IMO.

[G-Prime]

Originally posted by SkinsFTW


Or maybe Sean Taylor and Santana Moss are doomed.

ST isn't doomed.. Someone will tolerate his ignorant behavior.. But Moss is no where good enough to have the attitude that he's had..

[tr1]

Lesson: Don't show up in a list like this when on Gibbs' team....why? How long did their career as Redskins last? (I might add that Riggins came back in Gibbs' first year.)

[Park City Skins]

Originally posted by wwninja420
Wow, I hope I'm not the only one that didn't know that D. Green didnt show up for camp in 93! Makes me a little less worried about Taylor, although the two are worlds apart in the attitude department IMO.

I remember that...now. Rypien was the first to show up and the rest showed up after preseason started. All missed camp.

[Mr. S]

man, everytime I hear something about Riggins, I gotta laugh. Pure rock star right there, and despite, he still showed up for the team for his own reasons, even if he got drunk before games and whatnot. It's true though, send this article to everyone, see what their reaction is.

[FBChick]

I haven't really responded to all the doom and gloom threads, but I found it funny all these articles claiming Gibbs can't handle players. When you honestly think about the time in which Gibbs coached, things were pretty much in an upheavel as far as players versus owners were going. It's that era which very much led up to the creation of the CBA.

Moss and Taylor holding out? Nothing compared to what Gibbs has dealt with before.

[Califan007]

The only difference this time: the salary cap. Back then, you could let a player go without having to consider how doing so will cause his salary to effect the cap this season and the next...

[Califan007]

Originally posted by SouthernCali Skins

August 1993: Mark Rypien misses the first two weeks of camp in a contract holdout; Jim Lachey, Darrel Green, and rookie Desmond Howard didn't report until the team had broken camp. StatCounter - Free Web Tracker and Counter

Um, was Gibbs even the coach of the Skins in August, 1993???...???

[33]

Originally posted by Califan007

Um, was Gibbs even the coach of the Skins in August, 1993???...???

I think that he got the year wrong. I seem to remember Rypien sitting out the 1992 Training Camp. Gibbs last year. We still made the playoffs.

The only thing he didn't mention, which is obvious to us, is the records during those years.

I'm not concerned. Players consistently don't show up to workouts. It's just now the NFL media market is saturated and we actually hear who shows up and who doesn't. 5 years ago we would have no idea if someone was at Redskins Park or not in freaking April.

Remember, it's only April.

[big z]

win and all is forgiven. lose and the bashing will never stop.

[Joe Sick]

Who is Darryl Grand???

[Joeythetapeworm]

Originally posted by Joe Sick
Who is Darryl Grand???

A defensive tackle with a mispelled last name?