Help Wanted: Which HOF Voters Are For/Against Monk

[Ax]

I know there have been a flood of Art Monk threads, so I apologize for making another.

However, I'm trying to determine as best I can which HOF voters need to be turned from the dark side, and a search didn't result in an answer. If you know how one of them voted, give us the info and I'll update the list below.

This color indicates a Pro-Art voter.
This color will be used for the idiots.

These are the ones I think I have right. I'll correct any mistake you might know of as well.
Thanks for helping.

Pro Football Hall of Fame Board of Selectors

Arizona Kent Somers, Arizona Republic Mr. Somers responded that he did not vote this year.
Atlanta Furman Bisher, The Atlanta Journal Most likely, based on recent article
Baltimore Scott Garceau, WMAR-TV
Buffalo Mark Gaughan, Buffalo News
Carolina Charles Chandler, Charlotte Observer
Chicago Don Pierson, Chicago Tribune*
Cincinnati Chick Ludwig, Dayton Daily News Big Monk supporter.
Cleveland Tony Grossi, Cleveland Plain Dealer
Dallas Rick Gosselin, Dallas Morning News*
Denver Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News
Detroit Jerry Green, The Detroit News*
Green Bay Cliff Christl, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Based on his blog, and email.
Houston John McClain, Houston Chronicle* He answered my email. Nice guy.
Indianapolis Mike Chappell, Indianapolis Star
Jacksonville Sam Kouvaris, WJXT-TV
Kansas City Bob Gretz, KCFX Overland Park, KS
Miami Edwin Pope, Miami Herald*
Minnesota Sid Hartman, The Minneapolis Star-Tribune
New England Ron Borges, Boston Globe
New Orleans Pete Finney, Times-Picayune
New York (Giants) Vinny DiTrani, Bergen Record
New York (Jets) Paul Zimmerman, Sports Illustrated
Oakland Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange From his email response.
Philadelphia Paul Domowitch, Philadelphia Daily News
Pittsburgh Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
St. Louis Bernie Miklasz, St. Louis Post-Dispatch
San Diego Jerry Magee, San Diego Union Tribune*
San Francisco Ira Miller, San Francisco Chronicle* Found an article where he said so.
Seattle John Clayton, ESPN/ESPN Magazine
Tampa Bay Ira Kaufman, Tampa Tribune
Tennessee David Climer, The Tennessean According to his email.
Washington Len Shapiro, Washington Post*
PFWA David Elfin, Washington Times
At Large Jarrett Bell, USA Today
At Large Dave Goldberg, Associated Press*
At Large Peter King, Sports Illustrated
At Large Bob Oates, Los Angeles Times
At Large Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com
At Large Mike Wilbon, Washington Post

* Also serves on the Senior Selection Committee.

[BigDFan5]

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Nobody truly knows who votes for a canidate. Guys like King who are honest they voted against him ok. But has Zimmerman or Pastabelly said they voted against him? As for guys that say they voted for him how do you know? The votes are sealed. They can say whatever you want to hear to keep their email box from being flooded even if they really voted against him.

[SkinsHokieFan]

I think Rick Gosslein is against based on his statement about a "signature catch"

[WizSkins]

Cliff Christl was adamantly against Art Monk last year. He had a blog about all the reasons why he was against Art Monk. I also wrote him in a what I thought was an even-handed letter, but it was fairly obvious to me from his response that his mind was closed on the subject.

[Ax]

Thanks guys, keep'em coming.

[Bullets Fever]

Ira Miller in a 12/18/2005 column on sfgate.com said about Art Monk's candidacy "his time is overdue" -- I believe he is a yes.

I saw a list compiled by Rick Gosselin ranking the WR's which had Bob Hayes, Cliff Branch, Otis Taylor and Drew Pearson ranked ahead of Monk approx. 2 years ago -- I did a search today and could not find it.

Bernie Miklasz, in a 1/18/2002 St. Louis Post-Dispatch article. said he put a "pretty strong yes" beside Monk's name for HOF induction.

I saw in one of his columns that John McClain's wife is a big Redskin fan and has given him grief every time Monk doesn't make it.

[BigDFan5]

I saw a list compiled by Rick Gosselin ranking the WR's which had Bob Hayes, Cliff Branch, Otis Taylor and Drew Pearson ranked ahead of Monk approx. 2 years ago -- I did a search today and could not find it.

Do a search for rick gosselin art monk and halfway down you will find a write up from his blog where he says Monk deserves to be in

[Henry]

Originally Posted by WizSkins

Cliff Christl was adamantly against Art Monk last year. He had a blog about all the reasons why he was against Art Monk. I also wrote him in a what I thought was an even-handed letter, but it was fairly obvious to me from his response that his mind was closed on the subject.

Me too. He at least reponded to my email, and we went back and forth a bit. He's clearly not changing his mind, which is too bad because his reasoning is the worst of the nay-sayers. Just terrible.

[Bullets Fever]

Originally Posted by BigDFan

Do a search for rick gosselin art monk and halfway down you will find a write up from his blog where he says Monk deserves to be in

The entry I saw by Gosselin said that Monk had the statistics to be in the HOF -- I didn't see an endorsement. His comment could be interpreted as a back-handed slap at Monk using the compiler argument.

[Ax]

Originally Posted by Bullets Fever

The entry I saw by Gosselin said that Monk had the statistics to be in the HOF -- I didn't see an endorsement. His comment could be interpreted as a back-handed slap at Monk using the compiler argument.

Same thing I thought.

[SkinsFTW]

Somebody just needs to make a recording of all the times Monk got us the first down on 3rd and long or got our offense going when it couldn't move the ball in games. A player like him is what this offense was missing this year even though we had Cooley, but Cooley disappeared in some games.

Monk stepped up in those situations and was a huge reason our average teams could win 10-11 games, and our great ones made it through the playoffs with wins because of his key plays that are less recognized. He did this for more than a decade, that makes him a HOFer.

The biggest thing holding Monk back I think is that he was injured during 2 of our SB winning seasons and was less than 100% in the 1988 SB and wasn't used much (1 catch 40 yards).

Thats nothing to hold against him. He still held the most important receiving records when he retired and had a great game in sb 26.

What did Largent ever do in the postseason? How about Joiner? Those are the 2 guys who held the receptions record before Monk, they are in the HOF too. 0 SB rings or appearances between them. In fact, their teams lost more than won. The record that got both of them into the HOF is somehow not enough for Monk even though he did a lot more in his career other than set that record.

[betsy thurman]

it still burns my *** that Art is not in the HOF -- anyone who is a true follower of football knows that he belongs, all the guys who did not vote for Art continue to show that its politics, not whether they actually deserve it -- Art will always be in my Hall of Fame!!!!!!

[whatmeworry]

Originally Posted by betsy thurman

it still burns my *** that Art is not in the HOF -- anyone who is a true follower of football knows that he belongs, all the guys who did not vote for Art continue to show that its politics, not whether they actually deserve it -- Art will always be in my Hall of Fame!!!!!!

When I tell people Monk is not in the Hall they say i'm wrong, of course he is.Like they figure its a gimme that he would be in.
I guess we'll have to wait until Pastabelly and Queen croak.

[Ax]

*Updated: Kooney from Oakland.*

[Rocky21]

I traded emails with Gosselin and he said Art Monk was a nice guy and all but didn't deserve to be in the HOF because he didn't have a signature catch.

He is a no vote and a pig headed **** up dickwad bastard.